23. I Debate Evo-illusionists and Evolutionauts
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The following pages (sub-pages) are debates that I have had with evo-illusionists. The source of the debaters runs the gamut from YouTube commenters to a website from The University of Minnesota biology department, who I thought would be the most intelligent group. You can judge for yourself if you think they are. The debaters were outside volunteers that help PZ Meyers, the head of the bio/ev department there, and a famous evo-illusionist. The common denominator of all of the many evo-illusionist debaters that I encountered is that they all find it necessary to demean the questioner, which in these cases is me. Initially I naively thought that biologists would be interested in facts that would seem to disprove evolution. I actually thought that scientists were objective and interested in new theories. In the case of ev-illusionists, that certainly is not the case. Every one of the debaters believed what they defended so vociferously because some revered authoritarian figure in their life had told them what they were spouting to me. With evo-illuion being supported by supposed science books, they believed the illusion. They in turn spouted the information to their students, family, and people that they were in charge of, who also believed the illusion. This is, in a sense, a perfect example of evolution. Once layer after layer, generation after generation, believed the illusion, it became a locked in science. And, of course, underlying evolution is the religious belief of the followers. In reality, we are not arguing science here, we are debating religious belief. We are debating atheism. Atheism is a religious belief just as certainly as Christianity or Islam. In reality, these debaters are defending their religious position, and are not interested in logic, common sense, and probabilities. They have no interest in objectivity, and true science. They have swallowed the illusion hook, line and sinker, and their minds cannot and will not be changed. And they will demean anyone who tries; like me. Atheism completely depends on evo-illusion for its existence. Interestingly, evo-illusion does not depend on atheism. Many Christians believe that God used evolution as a tool to create life and species. Virtually all knowledgeable atheists must believe in random mutations and natural selection as the cause of us, life and species. Without evolution there is no atheism.
One more observance: A large percentage of the commenters on this site and my YouTube videos talk about “we”. “We” have the evidence….”we” found that…..”we” have this, “we” have that. If a person were talking about a true science, they would say “astromomers have” or “chemists found that…” They would not say “we”. The use of the word uncovers theiry thinking. They think they are in a group of believers, which makes them like a cult. And, as far as I am concerned, a group of people assembled for the purpose of promoting their beliefs, and who believe preposterous and impossible events to support their beliefs is a cult.
Before going into the discussion, here is a review of the steps of ev-illusion which may help in the understanding of how things work in the world of evolution “science”.
Step 1: Have a very credible demeanor as if your are “above it all”.Sound British, and intelligent. Be or be like a college professor.Talk in echo-y lecture halls.No one will want to challenge you, whatever you say.The audience will be responsive, worshipful, intimidated, and even more enthusiastically on your side.They will laugh at your jokes, no matter how bad.At every chance, make light and fun of those in the skeptic group.It will shrink and skeptic turncoats will come over to your side.No one wants to look foolish.
Step 2: Group all skeptics together, no matter their reasons for being skeptical.Make fun and light of the least credible in the group so it seems like the whole group is equal to the buffoon.Most in the audience will not want to be associated with the group of skeptics, and will willingly and enthusiastically be on your side. No one wants to look foolish.
Step 3: Make the audience think that they are witnessing an impossible event of your choosing, or that an impossible event took place that you describe.Make them think they are seeing something that they are not.Fool them into believing an event took place that didn’t.Once they believe in that one impossible event, they can be easily convinced the next impossible event also took place.As each impossible event is displayed, the audience will be more and more easily convinced, until an entire series of impossible events of your choosing will be accepted by the audience without question.No one wants to look foolish.
Step 4: Bait and switch. Make the audience think you are going to show, do, or describe something unbelievably difficult. When the audience is convinced, show, demonstrate, or describe an event that is far easier, but convince the audience that the new task is ever MORE difficult than the one you originally were going to show, do, or demonstrate. As they are already in your pocket because of the first three steps, they will accept step 4 without question.
By the way, I put an unhappy face next to the debaters comments, because they seem so unhappy, and angry. If I get into a debate with and evillusionist who seems normal, and enjoys discussing science, I promise I will put a happy face next to his or her comments. But I won’t hold my breath on that one. I hope I am wrong.
This is a video that I made about some of the comments that I have received from avid evolutionists.