D. My Debate with Angry YouTube Believers


I wrote the following paragraph on YouTube. I got the following responses from reasoned evolution believers. Pretty amazing……..

Me(stevebee92653): Darwin’s ideas are absolute fables.You have to believe in miracles to go for this sucker deal. A heart/lung/blood vessel/blood/nerve/brain system cannot possibly evolve in small steps. Adam and Eve are the same; pure fantasy. It is not possible that species arrived by either scenario. Why does Dawkins (atheist/evolutionist speaking on YouTube.com) think that if you don’t believe in Darwin, you must believe religion did it. Time to look somewhere else!

maxaltitude: Read a book on evolution, then come back and apologize for your ignorance.

Me(stevebee92653):I used to be a sucker believer like you. I did read and study evolution and cosmology. Sorry, but there are just so many things that can’t possibly evolve in small steps that it is ridiculous. People like you believe this nonsense because lots of people do, not because it makes any sense. The god of evolution is “millions of years” the prophet is Darwin; no different than religion. Read it yourself, and do some independent thinking, rather than just believing.

clerihew: Brilliant satire of creationsts’ attempts at turning the argument back on the evolutionists. “I used to be a sucker believer” – Hilarious! “People like you believe this nonsense because lots of people do” – cheeky! “The God of evolution” – OK, this one is rather trite. “Do some independent thinking” – LOL! Anyway, way to go, buddy! Excellent lampooning! Can you imagine how stupid someone would have to be to actually posit this as legitimate criticism? Ha Ha!

Me(stevebee92653): Clerihew: What in my writing could possibly make you think I am a creationist? I guess your brain hasn’t evolved enough to think clearly and logically. Way to go buddy. You are a typical evolution sucker. You make huge conclusions out of nothing.

clerihew: Going against both creationism and evolution is pretty shrewd. You make yourself out to be an independent thinker, an anti-establishment rebel, etc. and you don’t have to risk anything to do so. By simply rejecting everything, you don’t suffer the inconvenience of committing to anything. From this smug vantage point, you get to accuse everybody else of being a “sucker.” If you can offer a plausible alternative to evolution, I’d love to hear it.

Showboad84: No difference between religion and evolution? Are you really that ignorant? Evolution is based on scientific evidence, and the reason that Dawkins and millions of others believe in it is because it is the best explanation of how we got here that currently exists. Religion is not based on evidence or testable hypotheses. If you seriously believe that the two are comparable then i would take a good look at those study materials of yours.

Me(stevebee92653): Evolution is based on millions of layers of IMAGINATION, not science, EXACTLY the same as religion. If evolution were real, it would be all over the place today. You would still see fish crawling out of the oceans. Why did it only occur when no one could see it? Kinda like Moses getting the ten commandments. No one could see the event, but lots of believers out there. No diff.

Clerihew: You jackass, evolution IS happening all around us today. It’s just happening very gradually. Nature isn’t obligated to provide your feeble mind with dramatic instances like fish crawling out of the oceans (which you wouldn’t notice anyway, since it’s an exceedingly rare occurrence). Evolution is based on observation. If you can’t see it, or aren’t willing to see it, then that’s your loss.

Me(stevebee92653): Why is it that ev believers are so quick to call doubters names? Is it that you can’t argue intelligently due to your brain not sufficiently evolving? Fish crawling out of the oceans is a non-occurrence. Not in the fossil record, not happening today. But, keep BELIEVING, and never think on your own! Keep looking “all around us”. Let me know if you find anything!

Clerihew: Listen, ass-clown, evolution is an ongoing process. It is happening right now, it is always happening. Just because something is not in the fossil record doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Just because you didn’t see something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Cut this bullshit about evolutionists being brainwashed, it’s laughable. I call you names because you deserve to be called names. What’s more, you’ll take it and like it.

Carsonofmars: Hey, you are one bright guy! I guess you went to a good school, attended all your lessons and did your homework on time too! Please don’t disapoint me and say, no, you’re just another dumb idiot! Heart/lung/eye, whatever… can’t evolve in small steps? Are you really stupid or is this a joke?

Me(stevebee92653): If you are so goddamm smart, let me know how a heart/lung set can evolve. You can’t, and neither can fake evolution scientists like Dawkins. Ev “scientists” say a throat gene mutated and copied itself and formed another throat that turned into a heart. If you can believe this, you can believe ANYTHING. What would it pump, Kool-Aid? How did it “grow” vessels,connect to the brain? Where did the blood come from. Obviously you are a believer, so writing this is a useless effort.

Showbaot84: Of course i can’t tell you because evolution wasn’t a one day event. It’s a continual process that has happened over billions of years. It’s funny how you’re quite happy to criticise existing theories without offering your own. Just because you don’t have the capacity to understand something doesn’t mean it couldn’t have happened.

Me(stevebee92653): If it’s a continual process, where is it today? Non-existent. Darwin’s theory is not possible. (Of course neither is religion’s.) I used to be a believer in Darwin. Afer doing a great deal of studying and seeing the bullshit, I have absolutely no idea how “it” began. On that note, I am a dumb idiot, like you said. And you are a blind faith believer. I would rather be a dumb idiot. I can think on my own.

Showboat84: I told you, you stupid clown, evolution is observable even today. You just don’t want to see it because you’re an obtuse pain in the ass. I question the quality of your “studying.” You have “absolutely no idea how ‘it’ began?” Well, do some more studying! I’m glad you agree with me. You are a dumb idiot. Enjoy your “independent thinking” (excuse me while I collapse in hysterical laughter)…

Me(stevebee92653): Are you hallucinating? Where is it today? A moth that changes color? Bacteria that are not sensitive to Penicillin? That’s what Dawkins would say is today’s evolution. You question my “studying”, but not what evolution fakes tell you? I’m glad you know how life began as you are the only one in world who does, beside the religious. So keep believing! Adios. You are not worth my time.

Clerihew:“A moth that changes color,” “bacteria that are not sensitive to Penicillin” – what’s wrong with these examples? These are perfectly compelling instances of natural selection. No wonder you won’t accept evolution. It’s staring you right in your moronic face and you dismiss it. Why? I don’t know, maybe because you’re a giant asshole?

Me(stevebee92653): The moth and bacteria are examples of evolution that would produce hearts, lungs, and eyes? Right! I believe that! Makes sense to me. I believe that as much as I believe in the big invisible man in the sky. And, please keep up with the great array of names that you have called me. You seem so intelligent!

Clerihew: Who said anything about moths and bacteria producing organs? What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you not understand English? Or are you just retarded? Don’t flatter yourself, pal. If one can draw conclusions from your posts, your time is worthless. Worse than that, it’s deleterious to humanity as a whole. Please, do us all a favor, and kill yourself!

Me(stevebee92653): Me critically looking at “evolution science” is deleterious to HUMANITY AS A WHOLE? WOW! That’s the greatest compliment I have ever had. Really. I had no idea that I was that important. Thanks!

Clerihew: If you’re desperate for “compliments,” there’s plenty more where that came from…

13 Comments

  1. ucmchris said,

    Dude, we are not even close to figuring any of this stuff out just yet. Carbon dating is only accurate for 60,000 years anyway. Even if we figured out Earth….Big Deal. Explain the Universe. How could all that just evolve? Stars explode all the time, but its like we are all built perfectly. Everything is showing design. EVERYTHING!!!! We need to figure out the difference between evolving things and non evolving things

  2. ucmchris said,

    I am doing a speech tomorrow at a university ….I am so happy I found this site. 🙂

  3. stevebee92653 said,

    Thanks for the comment. It’s so nice to have a thoughtful commenter for once. I am used to being severely attacked. I have composed a couple of YouTube videos that may interest you if you get a moment:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4tpYozY2CM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBDd82A0pQ
    Anyway, good luck with your talk.

  4. bb456 said,

    i don’t know what their problem is, this guy sounds like a terrorist. Granted we don’t understand how the supernatural works but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t there. Also I think this is reflecting his world view of anything that doesn’t make since to him , dismisses it.

  5. Radhacharan said,

    clerihew: Cut this bullshit about evolutionists being brainwashed, it’s laughable. I call you names because you deserve to be called names. What’s more, you’ll take it and like it.

    lol you’ll take it and like it, what the heck, this guy sounds mad.

    Their insults made me laugh a lot, you made relevant points and all they could do is insult you. Keep up the good work.

    PS have you ever written anything about consciousness, self energy, purposeful activity, scientific findings on reincarnation, near death experiences etc?

    • stevebee92653 said,

      Thanks for the happy comment! I did one on YouTube that I haven’t placed here yet. It’s called The Age of the Universe: A Paradox. Kind of a fun one that deals with consciousness. You might like it. It’s under my channel for stevebee92653. Give it a try if you have a moment.

  6. Challagar said,

    Concerning the age of the universe, here is a little known fact that my searching revealed to me recently. No where in the book of Genesis does the original Hebrew imply that God created the creatures of the land and sea or humans out of nothing. Creation out of nothing is a western concept, not an eastern concept. The translators did not comprehend this so they translated it into words that they knew and understood. This is a new discovery by believers in the past century and has been ridiculed or frowned upon by the church in general. Just like new discoveries in science, new discoveries in theology tend to be suppressed when age old traditions are challenged.

  7. Challagar said,

  8. Challagar said,

    Sorry about the videos…I just read where someone else posting links got the same result. I would delete them if I could and try to edit the URL so it doesn’t show a video.

    • stevebee92653 said,

      I removed the vids. Maybe give the name of the vids, or modify the URL. Thanks.

  9. Challagar said,

    Here is another go at it.

    These videos are from a series of videos from a lecture by a Hebrew scholar. Some of the information in this video may suggest that the earth was not created from nothing and that the earth may be far OLDER than young earth creationists believe.

    www(dot)youtube(dot)com(slash)watch?v=juZSxrPOd2k

    www(dot)youtube(dot)com(slash)watch?v=SbcB1puaOyc&feature=related

  10. William Buck said,

    Interesting thoughts, though isn’t the evolution of lung/heart and stuff, a larger scale of what bacteria do already?

    For example the lungs: They just collect oxygen and attach it to hemoglobin right? Isn’t that what would happen if one animal had a random genetic mutation, which caused it to specialise instead of having non-specialist cells?

    Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • stevebee92653 said,

      You are wrong. Your first problem is assigning a “just” to the efforts of the heart/lung system. The mechanism is so complex, “just” doesn’t fit except in the world of evolution, where it is used frequently to downplay the incredible design and complexity.
      Mutations don’t yield specialized cells except in the fantasy of evolution as well.

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